They also have thin rubber soles throughout, which some people like more, but is cheaper as well.. Please take a look. This was several years ago, so my recollection isnt as detailed. Allen Edmonds Sizing to Carmina & Meermin Those that have Allen Edmonds and carmina or meermins, what size do you wear in AE compared to the others? Also it seems that Carmina outlet in Granada used to sell Meermin shoes a few years back. Alden 379x (Military Last) 9D: Incredibly comfortable last, toe box is roomy and snug in the waist and heel on shell, the split welt in Arabica Luxe was a little more snug. Everyone in London should visit John and ask for his advice on shoes. Its just the next level up. To me, they have been 100% worth the money. I have to disagree. Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. Unfortunately almost all clothing has diminishing returns as you pay more, and thats certainly the case with shoes. It's other Asian brands that are likely to become known in the West first, though. Dress socks. * **Midas Bootmaker Landshaker** 42EU excellent fit with room to wiggle toes in medium socks. For something more formal I turn to Carmina which provides the best bang for the buck. Besides a very enthusiastic and engaging chap in the Jermyn Street store, whose name I have forgotten, they could do with taking lessons from the brands mentioned in this post. Suede from CF Stead and rubber Victory soles. Still would have preferred 9.5E if it were offered. 55 last 9.5E: Excellent fit with thick or thin socks, this is what boot heaven feels like! Thanks Robin. Is higher volume though. No one wants their sole to wear down quickly, but points like the shaped waist are more aesthetic, and its up to you whether you care about them. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. These shoes have seen some heavy use and have been worn at least twice as much as the previous pair. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Bought before I understood my size. So all in all a shoes that looks good, but not a feel good shoe. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. Meermin shoes are classy shoes that are just so unbelievably functional and cost-effective for the price that they come for. Really useful local knowledge, thanks David. Berwick uses corrected grain for some of its models (this is what stopped me from buying a pair). Any sock works but medium thickness (Darn Tough light cushion) is ideal. Because every Carmina thread is comprised of "what size am I" questions. This includes Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, Morjas, Myrqvist, Skolyx, Grenson, Carmina and TLB Artista and Id like to share some of my experiences. They also have choices of colours for those who want to make their outfit pop, with bright and lively colours including red, green, and bright blue. 6.5D Carmina: 5.5: UK: Forest, Robert - 5.5UK: 6.5D Carmina Forest: 5.5: UK: 5.5UK with a smidge of heel slip: Was no question about it in any of the cases). Particularly for certain watches perhaps, although less likely for certain muted bespoke suits which might fit better but wont look more expensive than a good of-the-peg one. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. Most brands provide one width per shoe/last, which in the end really limits your ability to find the right fit (not to mention, to find the right fit for the shoe you actually want to buy). Very nice article. A very nice pair of black cap toes on the Eton last but far to hard to break in. While I have no problem wearing RTW tailoring that is cheap relative to the bespoke stuff you discuss on the website, with shoes I found it impossible to go back to cheaper brands once I got my first EGs. Its a long time since Ive worn shoes at that price level, and I simply have no frame of reference. A lot of influencers will also swear that it is box calf, which goes a long way to show either their incompetence or lack of integrity. But now I can confidently say this was the right choice and it is worth breaking that arch in to get fit and support of this level. Customers get a lot of value from buying Carmina shoes because these fashionable shoes are really sturdy, durable, and long-lasting in the long run. The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. Every now and then I got excited by a nice design at a lower price point only to be disappointed by quality issues. Foot extends past footbed on sides. Theyre both very big brands now.. Alden Van: 10D - Good fit. The vamp was tight but not painful, toes were fine. This article, then, is an analysis of the market for mens dress shoes below the Crocketts Handgrade level - all informed by Jesper. These are all a pretty similar level of make, though you lose a little in the raw-material quality among the cheaper ones, such as Septieme Largeur." Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. 4. First thing I noticed is that they write the shoe runs large and one should buy half a size smaller than usual. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. The former you appreciate in the shoes over time. Simon: I understand that there are certain differences between more expensive shoes and less expensive shoes. if I like a pair of suede Edward Greens chelseas and Meermin (or Allen Edmond or Loake) chelseas the same out of the box, would I enjoy the EG uppers longer because theyre of a higher grade suede? Rancourt's lasting seems very inconsistent. These would be an excellent fit if the toe box was a bit wider. In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out, https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/, https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/, https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113, https://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6, https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear. Take a ruler and measure between the base of the paper to the marked line. I still recall trying them for the first time after having worn Carmina for some years and noticed the difference instantly. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. When weve returned to normal I might need a trip to Spain to try on a selection from Carmina, Meermin and the other brands suggested in this article. In that regard, let me plug TLB as a particularly sound value proposition. Id have to say that, based on my personal experience, the C&J shops are one of the great strengths of the company. . If you wanted something sleeker, and dont mind it being slightly more delicate then JM Weston. Not least their finer ranges are really nice IMO. Not only the uppers are nicer, but the full calf liners are a joy when you put them on and you walk even a bit. Carmina shoes have better soles than the Meermin shoes. Im looking forward to stopping by! Will never purchase from that brand again. I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. At least in the States, TLB comes in less expensive than C&J even after the customization upcharge and even if you select the higher-quality Artista line. It is still quite hard to fathom the yearly price increases on EG shoes given their pitiful customer service. Vanity may well be part of the explanation, its hard to say. Brilliant. It was a hard break in, mostly just the arch. Altra Lone Peak 3.5: 12D, weirdly enough. Notes about feet: Low instep, low arch, wide-ish with somewhat splayed toes. Please dont take offence, I am just dead curious about it. So far I remained unconvinced but then again I dont know any better. You could specify any combo you wanted (dark navy to black, or dark purple to black, etc.) Never felt loose. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. I dont think either has changed in their quality, no. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. Barker has indeed several models in corrected grain, you find them under hi-shine on their own website. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. Jespers site is shoegazing.com. Please support us by using them. So on the making you get all closed channels, you get all leatherboard or even leather heel stiffeners, you get a rounded side on the heel on both inside and outside, a slightly bevelled waist etc. 2030 last 9.5: Acceptable fit with tongue pad and thin socks. Jack, I havent looked at Weston in quite a while Im afraid Jack, but from what I remember they are around that kind of level, yes. Initially uncomfortably tight across the vamp in shell and with moderate heal slip. Gaziano & Girling MH71: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling GG06: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling KN14: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling DG70: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano . If youre better of with 2 pairs of JC than 1 pair of JL is another question. Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. I have a pair of 9D shell chukkas that fits well, but after 2 months still has a little heel slip. Spain level 2: Berwick, Sendra and Meermin. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. Are morjas using leather or plastic heel stiffeners? Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. Interesting to hear you sized up for Simpson when based on your description above you Could probably have stayed on an 8. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. I have been tempted for a while to try a pair of bespoke shoes to see if it truly is a large step up in comfort. Great stitch density and overall construction for a GYW loafer that normally runs 160 euros. Ive never understood why they tried to branch out so much. Im sure PS readers would disagree! Looking at the Genova last. Meermin Hiro 8.5E UK: Good fit overall, snug around the ball without being tight and toes are less cramped than I expected with how the last looks. Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. I am asking because this difference has never really been clear to me. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. very snug in the toes. Sizing as 10E and filling in vertical space as needed seems to offer the best fit, without any of the above problems. Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. Little bit of heel wiggle room. Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. Crownhill is decent stuff as well, especially the material level for the price is good. For the price of a brand new AE Id rather get a pair of C&J or Carminas for a little more. Theyre good at marketing and following trends in particular, and have done very well in recent years. in 9D my feet can slide right out. Allen Edmonds 65 9D: Excellent fit. . Reply below with your sizing in any lasts you own/have experience with. Morjas uses corrected-grain leather, despite their claims to the contrary. As Im a women who is looking for well made leather shoes, I have even smaller heels than the male feet in comparison to feet length. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. This I find quite interesting, since you certainly arent the only one. It was a bit controversial, I remember some who felt pinpointed argued quite strongly against it. Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. C&J 341 - 9.5 UK. And they are one of the very few brands offering something for the ladies. AE is a company around 100 years old and about thrice Aldens turnover, I always heard that only second to it in quality in the US, so that seemed odd. p.s. Bored of counting likes on social networks? I own a pair of JL Lopez loafers (995) and a pair of Cheaney Lewisham (380) and with the exception of the fact that JL claim a hand stitched apron, I cant see any qualitative difference whatsoever. Noel: That was the point I was trying to make, when I wrote: whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Its a smidge roomy, but I don't believe going an extra half down would have worked and I prefer boots to be worn with boot socks. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. While a bespoke suit might of course feel a bit better in how it fits and how you can move, it isnt really more comfortable and better for the health of your body compared to a midrange full canvas suit, in the same way as bespoke shoes. Ive read PS with some interest over the last year or so, and have enjoyed learning how to dress properly. When changing the width of a shoe e.g. Even though mine are lace-ups, breaking in has actually been very easy and I also feel like they are totally worth the money. Dress socks. Not sure I'd feel the same today. The Santos shoes that I own are comparable in quality to my Carmina, Cheaney and C&J mainline shoes. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. You are using an out of date browser. Im keeping an eye open for Skomaker Dagestad Yamagata make-ups in the future. It may not display this or other websites correctly. But also, a lot of brands offer MTO with a different width at no extra cost, or only a small one. Allen Edmonds on the other hand has been declining in quality. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'footslide_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_6',108,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-4-0');The top-grade Shell Cordovan Leather material used to make Carmina shoes is surely one of the best in the world for dress shoes. These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and Carmina (above) coming to prominence in the past 10 years. * **Oriental Shoemaker unknown oxford last** 8.5US is comfortable but instep is too low. The arch is prominent, not as much as the White's Archease. I have 3 pairs of meermin and they are not hard to break in (aside from heel). all have factory shops if you are looking for a classic style but at a price closer to a discounted Loake. Slightly low instep and volume. This is more than just the upper, but depending on the build, the leather insole will mold and compress to the foot. The class that you are getting for Carmina shoes is of real excellence. Wapmaxi Time To Change 2015Meermin & Carmina Boot Sizing and Review Hey all, been a bit since I've posted but I stopped by both Meermin and Carmina in NYC the other day and thought I'd share my opinions for guys looking at either or both for fall boot wearing. Again, a big thank you to Simon and Jesper for the article. Sendra has its own brand as well as making for others, which is a little more expensive than Berwick or Meermin. Here there the number of brands increases, particularly with start-ups. It wont make them extremely soft, but should help in the process. 210 last 9.5D: Bad fit. Im afraid Im not great on recommending sizing issues like that. I cant really comment Im afraid Sebastian, having never owned any. Allen Edmonds is a shoe company and will always be known as such. C&J do not run their own shops. If you can spend that extra 100-150 I sincerely recommend buying a pair of shoes from Carmina or TLB Artista. I just don't love Rancourt's boot patterns and overall build. Meermins have also been fine, especially for suede loafers. Great Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mostly great fit but too much heel slippage. Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. 14.3 22.carmima uk6.5 carmina6.5 meermin/ 26.5 carmina . The Brannock size (heel-to-toe) will be the top parent comment. I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. The difference between, for example, C&J and EG is the same as the difference between them and the cheaper shoes. Orbans (above) is a brand started by Marcos Fernandez, who also started Septieme Largeur and other brands in France. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Focus were on shoes below 300, Carlos Santos nowadays is a bit above that, but definitely good for the price. And of course I could be wrong, but still believe theres something behind it. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. The toe length isn't excessive either. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. Cheers Adam, and very pleased thats the case. While not terribly drastic, this feature requires a bit more toe box space. On the other hand, Meermins wont last you as long as Carminas will. Steve. Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. Their price seems similar to or slightly higher than C&J Handgrade collections but I wasnt sure as they are a French brand. Moreover, theres no industry standard in how to name these things so anyone can call anything what they like. For someone who was a first time buyer of Northampton shoes, that process was indispensable. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. There are many levels at tanneries, and cheaper brands dont get the same quality or the first selection. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #TobaccoVintageBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #Carmina #ShellCordovanBurdeosHorweenBoots---ALL UB playlist---: ht. TLB Artista full review here Everything I have is at the level of Crockett & Jones Handgrade or above, and most are Edward Green. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. I wear 9EE in AE (65 last) and want to try carminas. That may change in the future though, with the higher-end ones like Miyagi Kogyo trying to make it abroad. Most of my shoes are Crockett & Jones because of the great customer service and the consistent quality. The $200 Meermins (while being good value for money) is nowhere near the equivalent of a pair of Carminas, and they would be quite far from the likes of G&G or EG. People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. And you could choose a more rounded last, if that was your preference. Where C&J excels is in the breath of their offering, but the overall quality wouldnt differ significantly between the two. The quality difference was like night and day and Id have no hesitation recommending the Loake 1880s as a good budget shoe. I own two loafers by Morjas, one stretched so much that my heel keeps slipping out. The customer service is great though! Did you ever talk to them about what is the rationale behind this strategy? and the results for the money where quite good.at a distance, you could mistake them for Berluti, at 1/4 the price. For more comparison, check these pairs out:CARMINA SHOESMEERMIN SHOES. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! I even got a pair of Lobb Chapels for 245 in 2009. Yes they do take a while to break in, but once they were, they ended up being just as comfortable as all my other GYW shoes. * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. Some of the best dress shoes that you can get with your money today are the Carminas and the Meermins. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. (My feet are only moderately narrow, so I dont have issues with normal width lace up shoes). I brought a pair of black Oxford brogues in a classic last for 109 that were from the previous season and a pair of Dark Leaf Calf Oxfords for 150 that had a negligible fault (even the staff had to look it up as it wasnt obvious). Meermin shoes come with rubber shoe soles that are hardworn and really sturdy. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! You know what youre getting. Other than that, interesting article. This is very useful, thank you. You are of course free to think that theres better sources than Shoegazing. For what its worth Joshua, (with plenty of experience of both) I wouldnt necessarily consider C&J a step up from Trickers. Premium Leather Uppers stitched down well with Goodyear Welting strategies make the Carmina shoes to be one of the most well-finished shoes that we have had the privilege of wearing. They claim it will still last as long and that the defects are just cosmetic, but still, it may not be what you expect. (For a RTW dark brown oxford, although I could stretch my budget a bit more, up to 400 euros). About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. Cork/insole filling will also compress. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. The last of their chukka didnt fit me, but the suede felt surprisingly good for the price. I wrote an article about it many years ago on the Swedish version of Shoegazing (before English was launched) which, to summarise, had the conclusion that its down to vanity. Additional notes: Heel-to-toe is 10, width on the border of D/E; heel-to-ball is 11. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. G&G also have exceptional service in the store. Hence, vanity wins (maybe). Their marketing is deceitful at best which puts them out of my radar immediately. Viberg 2030E 9: Specifically for the Halketts which have a trimmed waist and slight pattern changes these are okay in a half size up with boot socks. I can only speak for Cheaney, but the staff were very helpful and there was a good range when I visited around 7 months ago. The stitching on the soles is also less dense, though the soles do have some nice detailing like shaped waists and channeled soles, as you mentioned. Its just a selection of brands, and focus were on cheaper shoes than J. FitZpatrick (although he has a new lower-priced range coming). They are amazing shoes. They've seen a lot of rain, snow, slush and worst of all, salt. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. But Carmina say they dont use them even though Jesper was told they do. No issues on 5+ hour rides. The upper leather is stiff and prone to hard creases, but also a little thinner than other brands on this list which helps with comfort. For example, I got two new boots from the UK this week: a shell Carmina balmoral at just over $500 USD and C&J Galway 2 at just under $390 USD. Scotch Grain is particularly big and has its own production and stores, as well as being in department stores. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. Simon, I really appreciate the articles lately with a focus on quality at a more approachable price point. Vass, TLB Artista, even Meccariello. This is certainly true, and prices mentioned in this article are towards each brands respective domestic markets.. Whats interesting is that for US customers it can go both ways depending on guidelines/restrictions from the brands. However, after having broken in the heel of my 9.5E MP, I feel like I would have actually been just fine going straight 9.5E. I must admit, my original motivations were more around my budget limitations, but I think I am also strangely more attached to them having visited the factory (the same site since their manufacturing started in the late 19th century) and learnt about their provenance. Both these shoes are true to size, but Carminas are however more fitting and properly sized than the Meermin shoes. # EasyLifeES # CasualMenBoots # Carmina # ShellCordovanBurdeosHorweenBoots -- -ALL UB playlist -- -:.... Expensive than Berwick or Meermin with a deeper broader foot like mine % worth the money their own.! 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